Fort Hood Shooter

Why are the media, the military and every news reporter "still actively searching for a motive???" Are these people fucking stupid!?!?! He was a Muslim. Period. I have a feeling when this maggot recovers that he's gonna rail against the government, our military and our religion(s).

When he started giving away all of his furniture that should have sounded alarm bells that something bad was imminent. Granted, it was on the same day, but any Muslim in our military should be under almost constant surveillance. Wasn't the asshole that rolled grenades into tents also Muslim? I see a fucking pattern developing here! man, that was hard to watch last night.

he was also a psychiatrist.

Reports are coming out that this asshole was also handing out the Koran to his neighbors yesterday. I would have took it, said thank you and immediately pissed on it...in his presence. He is also said to have screamed "Aluha Akbar...God is great!!!" before he started shooting people. Gee, I wonder if this is a case of radical Islam?

Before I heard one fucking report yesterday about who the shooter was I said to a friend at work "I bet this asshole was another Muslim that's trying to get on the fast track to the 13 virgins." I pretty much hate all religion, but Islam is fast proving to be the religion of sub-human scum. And I always thought that Catholic priests butt-fucking little boys would always keep the top spot.

Saint John wrote:Reports are coming out that this asshole was also handing out the Koran to his neighbors yesterday. I would have took it, said thank you and immediately pissed on it...in his presence. He is also said to have screamed "Aluha Akbar...God is great!!!" before he started shooting people. Gee, I wonder if this is a case of radical Islam?

Before I heard one fucking report yesterday about who the shooter was I said to a friend at work "I bet this asshole was another Muslim that's trying to get on the fast track to the 13 virgins." I pretty much hate all religion, but Islam is fast proving to be the religion of sub-human scum. And I always thought that Catholic priests butt-fucking little boys would always keep the top spot.

Great post... if I hear one more politically correct bumfuck try and tell me "OH, BUT THEY'RE A PEACEFUL RELIGION! LOOK AT THE KORAN! LOL!" I might go on a radical Islam-fueled rampage on that person myself.

They are historically one of the most violent peoples and the Koran is one of the most violent of the three major books (The Torah/OT, the New Testament, and the Koran). Their religion justifies them.

With all due respect Matt,, there are few things you need to know ,,,,,

There are 2 kind of muslims

You have the ones who practive Islam as their Religion and as their system of beliefs.... the ones who do not push their religion upon others .. the ones I would call the REAL muslims...

then you have the morons who (mis)use Islam to their own benefits,,, the one who twist the words of Koran to their own advantage . the fanatic ones that think blowing up people and doing suicide killings will give the martyr status and virgins of heaven.....

Religion + Politics = DISASTER.....

Any religion have people like that.... Imagine if this country would have Mormons or Jehovas witness' in charge of our country plus access to the military ,,, we'd be in a much worse situation than you could ever imagine,,,,

The brainwashing these fanatic mulims put their kids through and pass it on, is what causes the suicide bombing and killing the innocent.,..and the goverments allowing for this shit to happen makes it even worse,,,,, The dictatorship in most these countries and forcing their own rules under the name of Islam, is what causes the tension and problems that is growing day by day in middle east.


The grounds and core of Islam, Christianity and Judism are the same.... the message is the same,,, its the cultural differences, combined with fucking idiots running most of the islamic countries that has led to the cluster fuck we deal with on a daily basis..... and which I believe will eventually lead into WWIII.....

With all this said,, Im pretty sure you can easily categorize this Major Moron as a fanatic , heartless bastard, who went psycho over shit he was brainwashed with decades ago....... then again we have seen psycho shooters in this country with different backgrounds, race and religion,,,,,

Behshad the problem is the doctrines of Islam allow these crazy guys to take over these countries and instill this culture in a lot of fuckin crazy people.

I'm not saying every Muslim is a bad person. All I'm saying is that the doctrines/teachings/customs of Islam by and large justify and are responsible for this shit.

The thing is, they AREN'T twisting the words of the Koran that much. A lot of their barbaric customs are adapted pretty faithfully from the Koran.

I'm not saying the Koran is the only holy book that has some weird/barbaric shit in it, we all know the Bible has plenty of that to go around.

The difference is, there are a lot of Muslims that buy into the barbaric crap foisted on them in the koran and/or from their nutjob sheikhs/mullahs/ayatollahs/supreme leaders etc... anything from their criminal punishment/justice systems to their treatment of women to arranged marriages to their worldview (THE WEST IS TRYING TO KILL OUR RELIGION OH NOZZZ!!!) is all barbaric garbage, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna sit here and try and PC spin it and act like they're just "different." If that makes me bigoted or whatever else, so be it.

Granted, you have people of all faiths and persuasions doing shit like this... but the sheer volume of Muslims doing shit like this dwarfs the rest doesn't it? You mention Jehovah's and Mormons... well when's the last time either one of those nutjob groups came and shot up a buncha ppl like this based on their religion? This guy didn't hold office or have power... so I dunno about your comparison there.

The problem is the whole fuckin culture, as you say, allows these idiots to descend into this lunacy a lot quicker than your average Jew, Christian, Buddhist, or even Mormon/Jehovah ever would. It's an easy justification and it's all many of these guys ever grow up knowing.

It's no different than many older people I know (60s+) still being racist/sexist. It's all they ever knew. They never had to think about calling someone a nigger or a slope or what have you. No cultural changes are ever going to happen over there until Islam can't be used as a justification for all the hate and violence and a preclusion to independent thought.

Religion in general is an easy justification and it is a joke. But, Muslims have to get special attention because they are the most frequent offenders in this day and age by a landslide

All that you mention above is still reult of PEOPLE translationg Koran to their own benefits....

Read the Koran and you will be surprised that its not as barbaric and violent you think it is.....

Its the govrments that change and twist the words....

A great example is Iran. Iran has been a muslim country for centuries. However, there was never any pressure to practice Islam and or even use Islam as the grounding rules of the counry until 1978 when the fucking Mullahs took over.

During the time Shah of Iran was the leader,, these were the same people practicing their religion and teaching the religion in school. There were no clashes with the western cultures,,,,

While Shah was the leader, Islam was practices in the country without FORCE and the ENTIRE region was peacefull..... All that changed when the damn Mullahs took over and we had avoided all this shit, had Jimmy Carter helped out the Shah and got involved in the region.....

Thats just one example,,, but that clearly shows that as long as Islam is not part of the politics and laws of a COUNTRY, used by the wrong people,it is a peacefull religion,,,,,

Had this guy been white and paraded through a fucking black church you would have incessantly and (rightfully so) immediately heard his actions referred to as a "hate crime." But the media has to walk on eggshells for this diaper-wearing motherfucker who obviously "hated" every non-Muslim on that base. The double standard is fucking sickening. I can't believe these spineless fucks are still afraid to speculate what his obvious motive was...to kill "infidels."

This country needs to grow some balls and immediately honorably discharge every Muslim in the military, regardless of rank and/or service record.

Saint John wrote:Had this guy been white and paraded through a fucking black church you would have incessantly and (rightfully so) immediately heard his actions referred to as a "hate crime." But the media has to walk on eggshells for this diaper-wearing motherfucker who obviously "hated" every non-Muslim on that base. The double standard is fucking sickening. I can't believe these spineless fucks are still afraid to speculate what his obvious motive was...to kill "infidels."

This country needs to grow some balls and immediately honorably discharge every Muslim in the military, regardless of rank and/or service record.

You really think it would actually work !???

Discharge soldiers for being muslim??

My preference would be to discharge a soldier or member of Congress for being a red-necked, right-winged, sarah-palin-lovin' fucking moron.

See. We each have our preferences.

Smoke 'em if ya gottem - and no bogarttin'

Cat

Saint John wrote:Had this guy been white and paraded through a fucking black church you would have incessantly and (rightfully so) immediately heard his actions referred to as a "hate crime." But the media has to walk on eggshells for this diaper-wearing motherfucker who obviously "hated" every non-Muslim on that base. The double standard is fucking sickening. I can't believe these spineless fucks are still afraid to speculate what his obvious motive was...to kill "infidels."

This country needs to grow some balls and immediately honorably discharge every Muslim in the military, regardless of rank and/or service record.

And the next time a christian soldier commits such a crime, should they boot them too? That makes no sense. Muslims are not evil or the enemy. Their corrup governments and religious leaders are.

Lynn wrote:

Saint John wrote:Had this guy been white and paraded through a fucking black church you would have incessantly and (rightfully so) immediately heard his actions referred to as a "hate crime." But the media has to walk on eggshells for this diaper-wearing motherfucker who obviously "hated" every non-Muslim on that base. The double standard is fucking sickening. I can't believe these spineless fucks are still afraid to speculate what his obvious motive was...to kill "infidels."

This country needs to grow some balls and immediately honorably discharge every Muslim in the military, regardless of rank and/or service record.

And the next time a christian soldier commits such a crime, should they boot them too? That makes no sense. Muslims are not evil or the enemy. Their corrup governments and religious leaders are.

While Dan is being facetious which I hope you duly note, the next time a solider goes and shoots a bunch of other soldiers because Jesus is great will be the first time.

Behshad wrote:All that you mention above is still reult of PEOPLE translationg Koran to their own benefits....

Read the Koran and you will be surprised that its not as barbaric and violent you think it is.....

Its the govrments that change and twist the words....

A great example is Iran. Iran has been a muslim country for centuries. However, there was never any pressure to practice Islam and or even use Islam as the grounding rules of the counry until 1978 when the fucking Mullahs took over.

During the time Shah of Iran was the leader,, these were the same people practicing their religion and teaching the religion in school. There were no clashes with the western cultures,,,,

While Shah was the leader, Islam was practices in the country without FORCE and the ENTIRE region was peacefull..... All that changed when the damn Mullahs took over and we had avoided all this shit, had Jimmy Carter helped out the Shah and got involved in the region.....

Thats just one example,,, but that clearly shows that as long as Islam is not part of the politics and laws of a COUNTRY, used by the wrong people,it is a peacefull religion,,,,,

Beh, the culture is seriously fucked up in many ways as I outlined above. It permeates among Muslims over here in America, too. My old tennis coach was an Indian Muslim (he himself wasn't serious at all about it), but his uncle/cousins were. They just had an arranged marriage. Some goofball nerd flew in from DC and just married the girl. Engaged before ever meeting one another... That's fucked up. I don't care how it's spun. Oh, and they've lived here for 35+ years.

As for the oppressive theocracies over there, yes, they are in large part responsible, but there are plenty of Muslims who buy into it hook, line, and sinker. Not all the radicals are political power players either.

The culture instilled by their religious beliefs is an enabler for the kinda shit that goes on in the name of Allah to go on. A less barbaric and more modernized people would have revolted against the political powers if the majority or even a critical mass of people in those countries truly had had enough and didn't at least feel some sympathy towards it.

There have been some glimmers of hope, like the recent revolt against the Iranian election, but the "peaceful" people over there need to grow some balls and get real change to convince me that many Muslims don't buy the garbage spewed over there by the hateful ones.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Behshad wrote:All that you mention above is still reult of PEOPLE translationg Koran to their own benefits....

Read the Koran and you will be surprised that its not as barbaric and violent you think it is.....

Its the govrments that change and twist the words....

A great example is Iran. Iran has been a muslim country for centuries. However, there was never any pressure to practice Islam and or even use Islam as the grounding rules of the counry until 1978 when the fucking Mullahs took over.

During the time Shah of Iran was the leader,, these were the same people practicing their religion and teaching the religion in school. There were no clashes with the western cultures,,,,

While Shah was the leader, Islam was practices in the country without FORCE and the ENTIRE region was peacefull..... All that changed when the damn Mullahs took over and we had avoided all this shit, had Jimmy Carter helped out the Shah and got involved in the region.....

Thats just one example,,, but that clearly shows that as long as Islam is not part of the politics and laws of a COUNTRY, used by the wrong people,it is a peacefull religion,,,,,

Beh, the culture is seriously fucked up in many ways as I outlined above. It permeates among Muslims over here in America, too. My old tennis coach was an Indian Muslim (he himself wasn't serious at all about it), but his uncle/cousins were. They just had an arranged marriage. Some goofball nerd flew in from DC and just married the girl. Engaged before ever meeting one another... That's fucked up. I don't care how it's spun. Oh, and they've lived here for 35+ years.

As for the oppressive theocracies over there, yes, they are in large part responsible, but there are plenty of Muslims who buy into it hook, line, and sinker. Not all the radicals are political power players either.

The culture instilled by their religious beliefs is an enabler for the kinda shit that goes on in the name of Allah to go on. A less barbaric and more modernized people would have revolted against the political powers if the majority or even a critical mass of people in those countries truly had had enough and didn't at least feel some sympathy towards it.

There have been some glimmers of hope, like the recent revolt against the Iranian election, but the "peaceful" people over there need to grow some balls and get real change to convince me that many Muslims don't buy the garbage spewed over there by the hateful ones.

It's kinda funny to me that when you know "Beh's" name you think you can teach him anything about muslims And those Iranians HAD balls! People died! They fought a HARD battle and should be proud.

Lynn wrote:

It's kinda funny to me that when you know "Beh's" name you think you can teach him anything about muslims And those Iranians HAD balls! People died! They fought a HARD battle and should be proud.

How am i trying to teach him about Muslims? I'm just relating my feelings on the largely barbaric practices of orthodox Muslims.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Lynn wrote:

It's kinda funny to me that when you know "Beh's" name you think you can teach him anything about muslims And those Iranians HAD balls! People died! They fought a HARD battle and should be proud.

How am i trying to teach him about Muslims? I'm just relating my feelings on the largely barbaric practices of orthodox Muslims.

It just seems a little funny to see how you are explaining "their culture" to him. Trying to get him to understand. He could probably teach you more about the culture than you can assume about it based on a couple of experiences.

Lynn wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Lynn wrote:

It's kinda funny to me that when you know "Beh's" name you think you can teach him anything about muslims And those Iranians HAD balls! People died! They fought a HARD battle and should be proud.

How am i trying to teach him about Muslims? I'm just relating my feelings on the largely barbaric practices of orthodox Muslims.

It just seems a little funny to see how you are explaining "their culture" to him. Trying to get him to understand. He could probably teach you more about the culture than you can assume about it based on a couple of experiences.

Again, I don't see where I'm explaining anything but my feelings and outlook on the problems. I'm sure he's forgotten more than I'll ever know.

I will say though, I've known quite a few Muslims in my life, as my side of town has a lot of them, and one of my best friends was my aforementioned Muslim tennis coach (til he moved away to Atlanta). It's not like I'm talking without any experience or exposure to the culture.

Again, I just think that the barbaric practices in the culture, practiced by both peaceful AND violent Muslims, is a huge problem. In short, I have no problem with Muslims that are nice people, but I have a huge problem with their barbaric practices.

I don't see how a woman could support much of anything that goes on in those Muslim cultures where shar'iah dominates.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Lynn wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Lynn wrote:

It's kinda funny to me that when you know "Beh's" name you think you can teach him anything about muslims And those Iranians HAD balls! People died! They fought a HARD battle and should be proud.

How am i trying to teach him about Muslims? I'm just relating my feelings on the largely barbaric practices of orthodox Muslims.

It just seems a little funny to see how you are explaining "their culture" to him. Trying to get him to understand. He could probably teach you more about the culture than you can assume about it based on a couple of experiences.

Again, I don't see where I'm explaining anything but my feelings and outlook on the problems. I'm sure he's forgotten more than I'll ever know.

I will say though, I've known quite a few Muslims in my life, as my side of town has a lot of them, and one of my best friends was my aforementioned Muslim tennis coach (til he moved away to Atlanta). It's not like I'm talking without any experience or exposure to the culture.

Again, I just think that the barbaric practices in the culture, practiced by both peaceful AND violent Muslims, is a huge problem. In short, I have no problem with Muslims that are nice people, but I have a huge problem with their barbaric practices.

I don't see how a woman could support much of anything that goes on in those Muslim cultures where shar'iah dominates.

Where did I say I support how religous leaders and goverments treat their women? Where did I say that? You criticized the "peaceful" muslims in Iran. I think that was very unfair because they have no guns and now way to fight that government, yet look how they put their lives on the line. You have know idea what the masses of people there think or feel. It doesn't matter if the majority of people there hate the oppression there, the people are at the mercy of the government. They have too much power to be overthrown by unarmed people. What is going on there has nothing to do with the religion. They are using that as their crutch.

Lynn wrote:
Where did I say I support how religous leaders and goverments treat their women? Where did I say that? You criticized the "peaceful" muslims in Iran. I think that was very unfair because they have no guns and now way to fight that government, yet look how they put their lives on the line. You have know idea what the masses of people there think or feel. It doesn't matter if the majority of people there hate the oppression there, the people are at the mercy of the government. They have too much power to be overthrown by unarmed people. What is going on there has nothing to do with the religion. They are using that as their crutch.

It's not just the big bad mullahs and ayatollahs and corrupt governments that treat women that way... it's most of the orthodox Muslims, peaceful or not.

I conceded that the election bloodshed was a glimmer of hope that a preponderance of Muslims over there are having the veil lifted way back in my original post. But it's not enough. Cultural change has to be made in a sweeping way for any hope of widespread change over there.

Actually ,
the way the goverment has treated the Iranian people for 30 years or so, it has totally made the Iranians themseves to somewhat resent religion.....
They are ready for a change, but its more than growing balls.... they have been out on the streets DAILY since June 12th, and theyre still getting killed in a war against freedom......
But when the goverment has the military on their side, its a battle you can hardly win..... specially when they dont know what they will get next, since the last revolution they thought they were getting a better goverment than the Shah.....

Many people here in US were frustrated when Bush cheated his way into the white house, TWICE,,,, but none had the balls to get out on the streets to have a FAIR election..... so even in a country with democracy, you still dont have that freedom to make the CHANGE,,,, you have the freedom of speech, but when it doesnt change a thing, what good is it ???

Ehwmatt wrote:

Lynn wrote:
Where did I say I support how religous leaders and goverments treat their women? Where did I say that? You criticized the "peaceful" muslims in Iran. I think that was very unfair because they have no guns and now way to fight that government, yet look how they put their lives on the line. You have know idea what the masses of people there think or feel. It doesn't matter if the majority of people there hate the oppression there, the people are at the mercy of the government. They have too much power to be overthrown by unarmed people. What is going on there has nothing to do with the religion. They are using that as their crutch.

It's not just the big bad mullahs and ayatollahs and corrupt governments that treat women that way... it's most of the orthodox Muslims, peaceful or not.

I conceded that the election bloodshed was a glimmer of hope that a preponderance of Muslims over there are having the veil lifted way back in my original post. But it's not enough. Cultural change has to be made in a sweeping way for any hope of widespread change over there.

No, you said they should grow some balls. Well what I watched in the medias showed great balls. They lost their lives trying to fight a battle they knew they could not win. Knowing their fate. And possilby the fate of their families. I would bet the majority of Iranians are not "orthodox" but it doesn't mean crap if they have no power.

Behshad wrote:Actually ,
the way the goverment has treated the Iranian people for 30 years or so, it has totally made the Iranians themseves to somewhat resent religion.....
They are ready for a change, but its more than growing balls.... they have been out on the streets DAILY since June 12th, and theyre still getting killed in a war against freedom......
But when the goverment has the military on their side, its a battle you can hardly win..... specially when they dont know what they will get next, since the last revolution they thought they were getting a better goverment than the Shah.....

Many people here in US were frustrated when Bush cheated his way into the white house, TWICE,,,, but none had the balls to get out on the streets to have a FAIR election..... so even in a country with democracy, you still dont have that freedom to make the CHANGE,,,, you have the freedom of speech, but when it doesnt change a thing, what good is it ???

Thats the other thing. We all think because CNN stops covering it, it's over. Well that is not the case so we think, oh they gave up. That's the problem with us in this country. Our media sucks and we live in a bubble or a glass house, don't know which.

Lynn wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Lynn wrote:
Where did I say I support how religous leaders and goverments treat their women? Where did I say that? You criticized the "peaceful" muslims in Iran. I think that was very unfair because they have no guns and now way to fight that government, yet look how they put their lives on the line. You have know idea what the masses of people there think or feel. It doesn't matter if the majority of people there hate the oppression there, the people are at the mercy of the government. They have too much power to be overthrown by unarmed people. What is going on there has nothing to do with the religion. They are using that as their crutch.

It's not just the big bad mullahs and ayatollahs and corrupt governments that treat women that way... it's most of the orthodox Muslims, peaceful or not.

I conceded that the election bloodshed was a glimmer of hope that a preponderance of Muslims over there are having the veil lifted way back in my original post. But it's not enough. Cultural change has to be made in a sweeping way for any hope of widespread change over there.

No, you said they should grow some balls. Well what I watched in the medias showed great balls. They lost their lives trying to fight a battle they knew they could not win. Knowing their fate. And possilby the fate of their families. I would bet the majority of Iranians are not "orthodox" but it doesn't mean crap if they have no power.

You are not seeing the forest for the trees. I was never talking just about Iran. I merely used it as an example where progress has indeed been made. There are other countries with huge problems with cultural barbarism on account of strict/literal adherence to Islam, including Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Progress has been made, but there is a LONG way to go.

Until a critical mass of Muslims over there get with modernized civilization in basic ways, like their treatment of women, they will continue to resent the West and violent radicals like the buffoon who shot up a buncha people yesterday will continue to lash out.

All radical Islamofascism is, when you boil it down to basic politics, is a new breed of totalitarianism. It's mass politics in the name of religion and nihilism. The key word there is mass. Too many people over there believe in it still, even with progress made on certain fronts.

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Saint John wrote:Reports are coming out that this asshole was also handing out the Koran to his neighbors yesterday. I would have took it, said thank you and immediately pissed on it...in his presence. He is also said to have screamed "Aluha Akbar...God is great!!!" before he started shooting people. Gee, I wonder if this is a case of radical Islam?

Before I heard one fucking report yesterday about who the shooter was I said to a friend at work "I bet this asshole was another Muslim that's trying to get on the fast track to the 13 virgins." I pretty much hate all religion, but Islam is fast proving to be the religion of sub-human scum. And I always thought that Catholic priests butt-fucking little boys would always keep the top spot.

Great post... if I hear one more politically correct bumfuck try and tell me "OH, BUT THEY'RE A PEACEFUL RELIGION! LOOK AT THE KORAN! LOL!" I might go on a radical Islam-fueled rampage on that person myself.

They are historically one of the most violent peoples and the Koran is one of the most violent of the three major books (The Torah/OT, the New Testament, and the Koran). Their religion justifies them.

Matt, this can also be said of alot of Christians also. There are Christians that claim it to be their religion, but go out and rape, kill, steal (breaking 3 commandments) and upon their guilt TESTIFY to the love of their Lord.

There is a very large group, and getting bigger by the day in the Christian called the Quiver Fulls. They are no different in their beliefs than the radical muslims towards women. They claim the Biblically mandated role of wives and mothers as bearers of children and workers in the home under the authority of a husband. They see any and all kinds of birth control as abortion and the consequences are the damnation of hell.

Every religion has it's tags/problems primarily because of the fact that man has re-written books too many times to fit their own purposes.

doka wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Saint John wrote:Reports are coming out that this asshole was also handing out the Koran to his neighbors yesterday. I would have took it, said thank you and immediately pissed on it...in his presence. He is also said to have screamed "Aluha Akbar...God is great!!!" before he started shooting people. Gee, I wonder if this is a case of radical Islam?

Before I heard one fucking report yesterday about who the shooter was I said to a friend at work "I bet this asshole was another Muslim that's trying to get on the fast track to the 13 virgins." I pretty much hate all religion, but Islam is fast proving to be the religion of sub-human scum. And I always thought that Catholic priests butt-fucking little boys would always keep the top spot.

Great post... if I hear one more politically correct bumfuck try and tell me "OH, BUT THEY'RE A PEACEFUL RELIGION! LOOK AT THE KORAN! LOL!" I might go on a radical Islam-fueled rampage on that person myself.

They are historically one of the most violent peoples and the Koran is one of the most violent of the three major books (The Torah/OT, the New Testament, and the Koran). Their religion justifies them.

Matt, this can also be said of alot of Christians also. There are Christians that claim it to be their religion, but go out and rape, kill, steal (breaking 3 commandments) and upon their guilt TESTIFY to the love of their Lord.

There is a very large group, and getting bigger by the day in the Christian called the Quiver Fulls. They are no different in their beliefs than the radical muslims towards women. They claim the Biblically mandated role of wives and mothers as bearers of children and workers in the home under the authority of a husband. They see any and all kinds of birth control as abortion and the consequences are the damnation of hell.

Every religion has it's tags/problems primarily because of the fact that man has re-written books too many times to fit their own purposes.

I won't argue with you, there are plenty of nutjobs of all religious persuasions.

The best example of violent Christian nutjobs in my eyes are the abortion doctor killers who quote passages from the Bible as justification.

My central point here is that Islam, the way it has been construed by too many over there, is leading to a far greater mass of violent, radical actors over there and over here. Not that Islam is exclusive in people using it as justification for hate.